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Murphy remains on ballott
Dale Murphy received 56 votes for the Baseball Hall Of Fame today and will remain on the ballott for next year. today's results:
Candidate Votes
% of Votes
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Bruce Sutter 400 76.9
Jim Rice 337 64.8
Rich Gossage 336 64.6
Andre Dawson 317 61.0
Bert Blyleven 277 53.3
Lee Smith 234 45.0
Jack Morris 214 41.2
Tommy John 154 29.6
Steve Garvey 135 26.0
Alan Trammell 92 17.7
Dave Parker 76 14.4
Dave Concepcion 65 12.5
Don Mattingly 64 12.3
Orel Hershiser 58 11.2
Dale Murphy 56 10.8
Albert Belle 40 7.7
Will Clark 23 4.4
Dwight Gooden 17 3.3
Willie McGee 12 2.3
Hal Morris 5 1.0
Ozzie Guillen 5 1.0
Gary Gaetti 4 0.8
John Wetteland 4 0.8
Rick Aguilera 3 0.6
Doug Jones 2 0.4
Greg Jefferies 2 0.4
Walt Weiss 1 0.2
Gary DiSarcina 0 0.0
Alex Fernandez 0 0.0
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TA79Bandit
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| posted on 5/24/07 at 07:25 PM |
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Hall of Fame
The following is a letter I sent to one of the Hall of Fame voters who did not vote for Dale Murphy. The arguments here against him are unfounded. You
are looking at his numbers and letting that define him. You are not looking at the whole picture. I am, by no means, covering it all, myself:
Dear Sir,
Every year I stare at the Hall of Fame ballot in disbelief. Every year one very deserving player (more deserving than most elected each year) is left
out of the Hall. That player is Dale Murphy.
I read your article and can now see why you writers are not voting for him. You go strictly by stats (except the important ones). You ACKNOWLEDGE his
great accomplishments but then negate them with somewhat misleading "numbers".
Sure, he played in the "Launching Pad", but how many pitches did he see? He had NO protection in the batting order. Nobody pitched to him. They
didn't dare and they didn't have to. They gave him crap to hit. But he had to hit or the Braves would lose. Period. That's where all the strikeouts
come into play. He had to swing at pitches no other hitter of his calibre had to swing at. Playing with a team with a stronger lineup (in a park less
likely to yield home runs) he would have easily hit 200 more home runs. Maybe more. There was usually no other threat in their lineup. If he were such
a mediocre hitter, do you think he'd be tied for 30th ALL-TIME in intentional walks? Probably not. Even without pitchers giving him anything decent
to hit he ranks 45th on the ALL-TIME home run list. His batting average should not be a consideration here. Along with more home runs, he could have
easily hit .030 higher with a decent team and some protection in the batting order.
You try to negate his All-Star appearances and Gold Glove awards by saying that they can be based on reputation or fan favoritism (the latter being my
interpretation from your article) but then go on to state how many top-10 MVP finishes he didn't have. That can be VERY biased and a case could
EASILY be made that he should have won 3 more MVP awards than the 2 he won. Without Dale Murphy, the Braves would not have won 50 games in most
seasons for the entire decade of the 80s. I'd love to hear anyone's debate on that.
You also failed to mention his consecutive games played streak (over 700 games). The biggest problem Murphy had with you (writers) is that he didn't
make a spectacle of himself. If more people know the "whole story", he'd be in the Hall of Fame already.
Another voter (maybe a little more informed, maybe not) stated:
"In the '80s in the National League, three names topped the leader board: Mike Schmidt, Hall of Famer. Andre Dawson, future Hall of Famer. And Dale
Murphy.
Through virtually the entire decade, if you asked the question. 'Who's the best player in the National League?' one of those three was the answer.
And when the '80s were over, Murphy had led everybody in his league in runs and hits, tied with Schmidt for the most RBI and finished second to
Schmidt in home runs.
But Dale Murphy was more than that. He was a back-to-back MVP, a five-time Gold Glove winner, a 30-30 man, a leading vote-getter in the All-Star
balloting and one of the great baseball citizens of modern times.
So that, to this voter, makes him a Hall of Famer. And if he isn't, he sure deserves more than 116 votes."
Again, he still doesn't mention some of the other things I spoke of. Things the stats won't show you. Those things have to be considered. To not is
to fail in your duty to the Hall of Fame, the men who played the game and the fans of the game.
Even if you want to go purely by stats, compare Murphy's career numbers to everyone in the Hall (and everyone that isn't). How many men are
enshrined in the Hall? Would not someone in the top 50 (or 100) in several categories ALL-TIME deserve enshrinement?
You may or may not choose to respond to me (I hope you do), but I would really like to know if, after reading this, you still cannot manage to vote
for Dale Murphy - Why? He was arguably the best player for the entire DECADE of the '80s. How can you dominate a decade and not be elected?
I'm sorry for being repetitive and I will end now. I just had to get this off my chest.
Thank you,
Jon E. Klinkel
Battle Creek, MI
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| posted on 12/21/07 at 09:39 PM |
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It has more to do with the fact that because of steroids everyone has 500 home runs now....his 398 looks a lot less impressive
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HOFMurph3
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| posted on 5/27/10 at 10:26 PM |
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The Steroid error following Murphy was the curse. The blessing could be the fact the writers really don't want to vote the Steroid ERA guys in yet.
They looked to Jim Rice with 382 career HR's, 1MVP, .295career avg.
I agree with you also on the name of the Murphy decade. It was Schmidt, Dawson, and Murph. Those were the most feared bats of the decade when it comes
to power. All 3 were also excellent in the field earning 5+ gold gloves each.
From studying the Gold glove. You can win 1 or 2 based on fame. Not a single example I can see that has won 5 or more wasn't an elite defender at his
position.
Round numbers are also to blame. Imagine if Murph finished with 400HR 200sb and a .280 or higher batting avg. He would have already been in for sure.
His low top 5 MVP votes on non MVP winning seasons are a joke. I understand the argument for him not being the winner because he was on some poor
performing teams but he is easily top 5 in at least 2 more seasons. I personally thought he should be 2nd or 3rd in 1987. He was 2nd in OPS, 2nd in
HR, 5th in RBI, 5th in runs. I think he was 1st or 2nd in walks and his batting avg was .295.
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